earlier this year, i received an email from a jw family member with a link to this video:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ruhkgqjug.
i wrote a long reply debunking the video (mostly copying talkorigins info).
I read half of that reply then my brain started hurting.
I'll come back to this for sure. I genuinely think 40+years of indoctrination has short circuited me intellectually, as whatever info I read on evolution doesn't seem to take a hold inside me. I EAGERLY await your response to the other family member, as I think it could benefit me a great deal.
Thanks for posting this, you know you'll be helping hundreds of people like me for as long as this site stays live.
freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.
your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.
those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.
interesting post, it'd be mega if this worked!
And welcome azor, takes guts to post the first time, I know the feeling well! Don't worry about bad associations, I'm a jw in good standing, and I gotta say I trust a lot of the people here more than I do some of the people in my own cong!
does anyone have the link to dl the wt library?
i was looking for some mag from the 1900s and see that the jw org site only goes back to 2000.
Ooh newly enlightened, is there a file with all the awakes /golden ages as well please?
current update- the wife and i are separated.
i dont go to the meetings or in service but im not df, or da.
she is not budging.. problem- my wife has made it clear that she doesnt want me back unless i do all the witness stuff, i have even offered to attend meetings but not participate in commenting or go in service and this is not good enough.
If you've not 'endangered' her spirituality, and to the contrary are willing to even support her in her belief, she shouldn't be separated from you. Exercise your God give husbandly authority (!) and quote some wt's and scriptures at her telling her to be in subjection and try to win you over without a word. If that's what you really want. This cult sucks donkey balls.
standing up for yourself,and deciding to follow your own path takes strength .
you have to be strong especially if you were raised in a way of life that dictated so much of who you were .
while being raised as a jehovah's witness i was taught to follow ,unquestionally follow .i was told to put others before myself ,serve,don't stand out ,don't be independent .
Thanks troubled mind, your words came at just the right time for me. Being still in, the indoctrination can still have a hold on me at times. This helped.. Thanks man!
a brother was appointed recently in the cong, he's got a dodgy history, doesn't really have the respect of many in the cong.
it's surprising to me, but i don't really care, good for him.
my wife, on the other hand, is angry!
Pete, snare, and what happened, GREAT suggestions, thank you for those..
i've heard before about the j-dubs saying they are not to have too many things..............it's just "material objects".
not to have tattoos on their skin also.. what about a full blown born in j-dub getting breast implants??
is that allowed??
I wouldn't have them myself. Only cos I don't think my wife would lend me her bras.
a brother was appointed recently in the cong, he's got a dodgy history, doesn't really have the respect of many in the cong.
it's surprising to me, but i don't really care, good for him.
my wife, on the other hand, is angry!
Hey all!
A conversation was had, all very civil and even conspiratorial, and not even vaguely forced. She's mad as hades about it, even to the point of thinking of moving congs! Thank you all for your suggestions, I'm gradually learning more and more to shut up and just listen. There's no way this will be forgotten, I even managed to get your example out, slidin fast!
hate this waiting game..
a brother was appointed recently in the cong, he's got a dodgy history, doesn't really have the respect of many in the cong.
it's surprising to me, but i don't really care, good for him.
my wife, on the other hand, is angry!
Thanks searcher, but if I said that, she'd presume I was being sarcastic as she knows full well I've got serious doubts..
And slidin', I figured that would be the way to go, I know it's a long game, but I'm getting impatient! I've already dropped in the change of arrangement, but I'm always trying to think of conversations we can have where I don't come across as a negative 'subverter of faith'.....
a brother was appointed recently in the cong, he's got a dodgy history, doesn't really have the respect of many in the cong.
it's surprising to me, but i don't really care, good for him.
my wife, on the other hand, is angry!
A brother was appointed recently in the cong, he's got a dodgy history, doesn't really have the respect of many in the cong. It's surprising to me, but I don't really care, good for him. My wife, on the other hand, is ANGRY! she's lost respect for the body for appointing him. I want to capitalise on this, and help her think about the 'spirit appointed' process, but if I bring it up directly I'll just blurt out "see, no spirit appointment here, it's a crock!", and she'll shut down..
Me bad with words. Me need help. What sort of questions do you think I could ask, any help appreciated!
